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Hell, the Occult, and the Demonic Sermon Series: The Church Never Preaches On... Ryan DB Kimmel Lead Pastor Peace Church Main Passage: Matthew 25:41-46 Transcript Today is the day that the Lord has made. So let us rejoice and be glad in it, and everyone said, "Amen." Today, some of you are going to hear things about Jesus Christ that you've probably never heard. Some of you are going to feel a lot different than the one that's so accepted by our culture. In this series, we've been looking at topics that "quote-unquote the church never preaches on," and if you're just joining us, we polled our congregation and they submitted these topics and voted on the top six. Today, we are looking at my least favorite of all the topics, which is this one: hell. So if this is your first Sunday here, welcome. Would you please turn in your Bibles to Matthew chapter 25? This is one of those passages where I just kind of want to scream to our world: "Yes, Jesus Christ actually said this. Yes, Jesus actually taught this." In this passage, we're going to read and get a future epic picture of Jesus himself. It's a vision that Jesus gives to us of himself at the end of days when he returns and sits on the throne as the judge of all the earth. He gathers the nations and separates them into two groups: one that will go to inherit the kingdom of God and go to heaven, and another group that will have the complete opposite. Now, the first group that Jesus speaks to, he says this: "When I was hungry, you fed me. When I was thirsty, you gave me something to drink. When I was sick, you cared for me. When I was in prison, you came to visit me." And that group responds to Jesus, and I love their honesty, they say, "When did we ever do that?" And then Jesus famously responds with these words: "Truly I say to you, as you did it to the least of these, you did it also unto me." It's beautiful. But then he turns to the other group, and with a similar but opposite conversation, we see Jesus end that interaction much differently. Would you please hear the word of the Lord? This is the section we'll look at this morning, the Gospel of Matthew chapter 25, verses 41 to 46. Again, just to clarify, Jesus is speaking in third person here about his future self. Matthew 25:41-46 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” Then he will say to those on his left, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food. I was thirsty and you gave me no drink. I was a stranger and you did not welcome me. Naked and you did not clothe me. Sick and in prison, but you did not visit me." Then they also will answer, saying, "Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?" Then he will answer them, saying, "Truly I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life. This is God's very sobering word for us here this morning. Let's pray and continue. Father in heaven above, Lord, by the power and presence of your Holy Spirit, please give us much understanding today. And with that, a holy fear as we look at the most terrifying subject of hell. And yet, in the midst of this, would you give us reverence for you? Would you give us comfort in the gospel? Would you help us to understand the truth that for those of us in Christ, it is not hell, but heaven that awaits? We pray these things for your glory, for our joy, and for the good of our neighbor. And everyone said, "Amen." So if you were with us last week, you know we spoke on heaven. Today, we are looking at the opposite of that. With this passage here today, let me give you one thought to consider: Main Idea: hell is the ultimate horror, reminding us that our actions really do matter. As we look at this passage today, here's what we're going to do. We're going to look at two things coming out of our passage, and then we're going to spend some time, like we did last week, looking at some FAQs that came in with this question and this topic when it was submitted. The first thing: hell is the ultimate horror because the punishment is eternal. The second thing: hell is the ultimate horror because the judge is Jesus Christ. Speaking in third person, Jesus says this: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire." See, I truly think that one of the things that makes hell so terrifying is that it is Jesus Christ as the judge who sends us there. Did you understand that? Did you know that? Have you read your Bibles to see this? See, I wonder if there was some level of solace for people as they entered into hell, looking at Jesus with tears in his eyes, sad about what's happening. Friends, that's not the picture the Bible paints. That's not our Lord and Savior. He presides over the sending of people to hell. Jesus is the King who sits on the throne, and for me, this makes it all the more horrifying. I think our culture loves this picture of Jesus in a tie-dye shirt that says, "Be kind." We love that Jesus, but that's not the Jesus of Scriptures. The Jesus of Scriptures is the Jesus who sits on the throne as the King of creation who rules and reigns. Yes, he reigns in love, the perfect and most prime example of love, but he also does it in justice and authority. We want to make God the Father the bad guy from the Old Testament who's mean and angry, but the New Testament is about God's Son who's all loving and kind and welcomes everybody. The Bible doesn't pit the Father and the Son against each other. Rather, we see Jesus make it abundantly clear that he's not just the Savior. Jesus himself says that he's the final judge. Jesus makes this clear in John chapter 5, verses 22 to 23. Jesus says, "For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father." Jesus is the one who both saves us and offers us salvation, but for those who reject it, he is also the judge who sends people to hell. Look at the second part of verse 41. Again, this is Jesus speaking: "Away from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Hell was not made for you. Hell was created for those angelic beings who, while in the presence of God, rejected God. That's who hell was prepared for. It's a place of judgment and punishment and torment, where angel and human alike will both go to suffer for their rejection of God. Jesus is the righteous judge who stands before you and all creation, exposing your works and the actions of your life, revealing to you and to others, and to the Lord, whether you were following him or following something else. Jesus will examine not just the actions, but the motives of our lives, to see if we chose salvation or if we chose stuff, if we chose Christ or if we chose comfort. You say you're a Christian, you say that I'm your Lord and Savior, you say that you follow me, but what about your life shows that you were like me in any possible way? If I can't see one thing in your life reminiscent of what Jesus is saying, then how am I to believe you're following me? This is a dangerous thing for us, especially 21st-century American Christians. We think salvation is that thing we receive, and then we just go on our merry way. Salvation is that thing that we receive, and then we walk in the ways of our Savior, following him all the days of our life. But I want to be clear on something here. It is not our actions that save us; it's who we place our faith in. Christ is the one that saves us. Our actions do not save us, but they do reveal what's on the inside. This is what Jesus is getting at when he says, "Whatever you did to the least of these, you did it unto me." Are you serving Jesus in everything that you do? If we follow Jesus, we'll not just live like him, but Christ himself says, "If we love him, we will obey him." Living like Jesus and obeying Jesus isn't what saves us, but it shows we know where we're going, know who's getting us there, and we're following him every step of the way. If you're sitting there and thinking to yourself, "Alright, pastor, I guess I better start feeding the poor or I'll get sent to hell," that's not the right response, and that attitude is going to get you nowhere. If that's your attitude, Christ will say, "You didn't feed the poor to care for them, you didn't feed the poor to honor me, you fed the poor to save yourself." And that's really what Christ is always rooting out. Why do we do the things that we do? Jesus is concerned that our actions aren't about trying to save ourselves, but are done out of love and joy, in response to what Jesus has already done fully and completely for us. So no, the response is not, "I better sign up for the prison ministry then." Maybe some of you are called to do that. But the number one response is to repent of your sins, accept what Jesus has done for you on the cross, and follow him, wherever that leads you and whatever that calls you to do. What Jesus is saying to the group on the left and the right is not a checklist to make sure that you've checked all the boxes so that you can go to heaven. He's simply trying to expose whether you lived your life in the ways of Christ or not, and if you didn't live your life in the ways of Christ, then how can you say you're following him? My friends, the response is we better repent of our sins and accept what Christ has done because when you see what Christ did for you so generously, that makes you all the more generous. When you truly experience the love of God, someone who's really touched by the love of God, there's no way they don't share that with others. But make no mistake, this is because of what Jesus first does in our lives. Jesus says, "As you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." Jesus is showing us and exposing before us and the entire world whether we are living for Him or for ourselves. Hell is God saying, "If you truly reject me, if you truly don't want me part of your life, then I'll give you what you want. I'll give you existence apart from me and apart from my grace." Hell is the full experience of the lies that our culture is telling so many of us and that so many of you are buying into. So let me share some of these lies, and let's see if you are buying into them. Here's some of the lies our culture is saying to us: "Only you can make yourself happy." Here's another lie: "You do you." Here's another lie: "Be what you want and don't let anyone tell you otherwise." I know that we think those are all really cool statements that will probably get a lot of likes on social media, but if we took half a second to think deeper than what a meme is showing to us, then you'll see what all those statements have in common. These are all veiled ways that our culture is simply saying to you, "All that you need is inside of you. You don't need God. You don't need anyone else." I'll tell you what, that lie of self-sufficiency is really attractive to American Christians. We really love the American dream, that we can work and earn and provide our own way and we don't need anyone else. I'll tell you what, that mentality makes it really hard to accept the gospel. You could do nothing on your own. God had to literally step into the creation He made in order to save you. You are so helpless that God had to get up off His throne, come from heaven to earth to do for you what you couldn't do for yourselves. This is why we worship Him. Because He gave up everything to save us. And we are such greedy people. These lies are things that our culture and a generation are buying, hook, line, and sinker. And we think that we can do everything ourselves, that everything we need is inside of us. And the gospel says, "Yes, you're made in the image of God, but something is drastically broken, and you need God's love to come in and make it whole again." But if you want this, if you want to accept those lies, if you want to live your life apart from God, then in the end, you'll get what you want when you hear these words: "Depart from me." The horror of hell starts when you hear those words from the very One who has offered you life, offered you love, offered you salvation, offered you acceptance into the kingdom, offered you heaven, but you chose something else. I'm here to tell you, all roads lead to the throne of Christ. And you either continue through Him as Savior unto Heaven, or you will move away from Him as the judge as you go into hell. And I can't imagine something so sad as what Christ describes here in this passage. And it's not just sad, it's utterly terrifying that the very One who saved you, who offered you salvation and you rejected it, is the very One who then sends you to hell. The ultimate horror. Hell is the ultimate horror because the judge is Jesus Christ. And the second thing: hell is the ultimate horror because the punishment is eternal. Look at verse 46. Jesus says, "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." Key word here is "eternal." Hell is eternal punishment. And hear me, my friends, this is not because God is some sadist or he's just about malicious torture of his enemies. Hell is the righteous punishment for our sins. I just want to confess something here for a second. I don't want to minimize the struggle some people have with this question. Some people come to this and ask, "How could a loving God send people to hell?" I don't want to minimize that question. I just want to tell you, I never struggled with that question. Because I look at our American justice system, and just because people go to prison doesn't mean we hate them. I never struggled with that aspect of the question. On the flip, there was a part of that question that I wrestled with for a long, long time. It haunted me for a long time, and it was this: "Why would God send us to eternal punishment for temporal sins?" That was the question that made me lose sleep at night. That's what felt like the injustice to me. Meaning, here's another way to put it: "Why is damnation for infinity, for eternity, for sins that we simply committed in this momentary life?" That question plagued me, haunted me, made me question if God was good. Here's what I'd say to you: we know the answer to that question. You know how this works. It works the same way in our justice system. The length of punishment is not contingent upon the length of time it took to commit the crime. If you're very proficient at robbing a bank and you can rob a bank in ten minutes, does that mean that your prison sentence is only ten minutes long? No. We understand how this works. We know that the prison sentence is contingent upon the seriousness of the crime, not the length of time it took to commit it. If you don't think your sins are worthy of eternal punishment, tantamount to burning alive forever, now whether or not it's literal flames or if Jesus is just speaking in ways that we would understand, either way, hell is horrendous and worse than you can imagine. Even if it's tantamount to burning alive forever, if you don't think your sins deserve this, then that shows how little you think your sins actually are, rather than understanding how grievous they are, how much your actions actually matter. Or to put it another way, if you don't think your sins are worthy of eternal punishment, then you've just confessed that you are living according to your own standard, not God's standard. Part of the reason we think so little of our sins is because we think so little of God. We love to talk about the love of God, but we need to think about the holiness of God. It's what far too many Christians don't think about enough: the holiness of God. The only time we see an attribute of God repeated three times in a row is when the scriptures cry, "Holy, holy, holy." We need to think about the holiness of God. I don't want to make something as horrific as hell into something very simple, but you may have heard me say this before because it helps us to begin to understand this. It's fairly simple. When we sin against an eternally holy God, the right and just punishment is eternal punishment. It's a simple equation against God's eternal holiness. So here's what I want you to do. Rather than thinking right now God is unjust for sending people to hell, here's what I want you to do: seriously imagine how holy God must be that to sin against him results in the right, just, and proper punishment being eternal flames. How holy must God be for that to not be unjust, but the just and right response to sinning against Him? If this is inconceivable to you, then I wonder what God you've been worshiping. More than likely a God made in the American image or your own image. God is so immensely holy, it is terrifying. This is why we see the prophet Isaiah, when he enters into the presence of God, say, "Woe is me, I have come to ruin." Because if sinning against God results in the proper punishment being held forever, being burned alive forever, while also being forever consciously aware of what's happening, and that's the proper and right response, and it's in response to God's holiness, I wonder if we've spent enough time considering the holiness of God. It's hard to understand. I know it is. Believe me, it is. This notion of God being so holy that the right and proper punishment is eternity in hell, the notion that God would send people into banishment from His presence into eternal conscious torment forever, I understand why some people come to that point and say, "I'm off the train. That seems too archaic. I can't believe in a God like that." I kind of understand from a human standpoint. But let me remind you what we said in the beginning: Hell is the ultimate horror, reminding us that our actions really do matter. I don't mean matter in just some relative way or some momentary way or some inspirational way that won't last. Your actions actually matter in a spiritual and eternally significant way. You are actually that important. What you do is that important. Don't think so little of yourself. What you do has eternal consequence. You know, it's at this point in the sermon where typically I would probably interject some sort of light-hearted anecdotal story or something to that effect, just to lighten the mood. But I know Peace Church, and you're ready to go deeper, right? If sinning against God results in eternal damnation and that reveals how holy God is, then what does this mean for the six hours that Jesus Christ was on the cross paying for the sins for those who placed their faith in Him? What happened on the cross that was so powerful that it was able to cover an eternity worth of sins? Because it wasn't just the cross. It was who was on the cross and what happened. The Son of God was rejected by God the Father in some way, and the Trinity began to feel a rupture. The punishment was so incredible, the price that was paid so high, and the person paying for it so pure, it was God Himself paying for this, that it was able to cover an eternity of punishment for sins. This is the gravity, magnitude, and wonder of Good Friday, of the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. This is why we worship Jesus for who He is and what He's done. This is why we place our faith in Him, because there's no one else who was able to do this. He was the only one, because He was fully God and because he was fully man. Fully God made him able to pay for all the sins. Fully human made him able to pay for human sins. This is why we worship him. This is why we bow before our Savior, who is no longer on the cross but now sits on the throne, because he is the King. But my friends, now is not yet time of condemnation. Now is the time of salvation. But judgment is coming. So save yourself from it by placing your faith in Christ, who now with open arms is calling you into His kingdom. Repent of your sins. Place your faith in the hands of the only one who is able to save you. And His name is King Jesus. When you do, you'll be welcomed into the kingdom. Judgment is coming. You think God will allow all this wickedness to continue forever? It will be brought to an end. Judgment is coming, and the only way to stand ready is to stand in the salvation offered to you through Christ Jesus, who offers it to you now. So receive the grace, receive the salvation that you most certainly do not deserve, and understand what Jesus has done for you. Or, you can continue to reject God. You can receive the fact that Jesus has paid for your sins, or you can choose to pay for your sins yourself. If you choose to pay for your sins yourself, then it will literally take an eternity for that to happen. Do you know what I mean by eternity? I mean never-ending. For however long you are in hell, for however many trillions of years, there is still more time left than what's behind you. That's how grievous your sins are. That's how amazing Jesus is, that he was able to cover that by his death on the cross. So receive the grace that is offered to you through your faithful Savior who calls you. Or you can continue to reject Him, and at the end you will get what you've been asking for all along. Hell is the ultimate reminder. Hell is the ultimate horror, reminding us that our actions really do matter. This is dark stuff. I understand. I understand this is hard. This is hard. I will be completely honest with you. I slept very little last night. This is the stuff that haunts preachers. This is the stuff that should haunt you. We are a culture that says we long for justice. This is the ultimate justice happening. When people submitted their suggestions for hell, many times people said it with questions about the occult and some of the demonic things happening around us. What I want to do is spend a few moments with the time we have looking at some FAQs, and whatever we don't get to, I'll have the guys over at our podcast "That's a Good Question" answer the rest. Here's a couple of the questions that came in. What is the occult, and how dangerous is it? Simply put, the occult is a banner term that encapsulates different ways that people participate in it. It's not one specific thing or one specific sect. The word "occult" comes from the Latin word meaning concealment or to conceal. We've taken that and connected it with this weird mysticism that people engage in to try to practice with or participate in spiritually concealed things, which is why it's so often connected with darkness. A popular-level inception of this would be things like tarot cards, Ouija boards, or palm readings. The occult is incredibly dangerous. Before I became a Christian, unfortunately, I dipped my toes in some of these things. The occult is a tool that demonic powers use to make people think that they are enlightened, or getting insight into the concealed parts of nature, or making people think they have some level of control over spirits. But I'll remind you what the Bible says about this in Corinthians chapter 11, verses 14 and 15, that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light, so it's no surprise if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. People who are practicing the occult think they're experiencing good things or some sort of enlightenment or they're getting a window into something that's true. But here's what I'll tell you: the occult is about concealed darkness, but we are people of the gospel, which is about revealing light. The second question is, "How prevalent is New Age spiritualism or paganism?" From 2011 to 2021, we saw an over fourfold increase in the number of people in the U.S. who identify as pagans. Pagans are people who practice the occult with a specific angle of trying to access the spiritual through nature. That's kind of what you think of when we think of pagans. In the last couple of years, National Geographic, New York Times, NBC News, and others have done pieces on the rise or comeback of witchcraft and paganism in America. What people are doing with paganism and witchcraft is looking to the past and saying the predecessors of paganism and witchcraft were actually on to something. Many of them were killed for practicing such dark things, but people are looking back and saying they were on to something. They take a modern understanding of science and blend it with these ancient practices of occult pagans and witches. They try to combine modern understanding of science with this ancient mysticism, saying they were in tune with the rhythm of nature or connecting it to things like the magnetic fields of the earth, giving a gateway into the spiritual. See how there's this blend of science and spiritism? It's very appealing. For people who practice this, it makes the ancient pagans and witches into martyrs, because many of them were killed for what they practiced, turning them into martyrs for what they were doing, saying they were on to something. It's a form of spiritualism that rejects the authority of God, while boasting in an enlightenment through modern science and delving into the mystery and wonder of the spiritual. I understand why it's attractive, but it's simply demonic. The Bible acknowledged and predicted this would happen. First Timothy 4 says, "Now the Spirit (meaning the Holy Spirit) expressly says that in later times, some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons." First Corinthians makes it clear that pagan rituals are not scientific; they're demonic. "What pagan sacrifice (or you could say what pagans practice), they offer to demons and not to God." One more question: "What power do demons have?" They have limited power. Only God is all-powerful. Before talking about how much power they have, which is hard to quantify in human terms, let's talk about how much power we allow them to have. That's what's going on here. Paganism and spirituality open us up to the power of the demonic. I want to say that demons have as much power as we allow, but let me say this: if you're a Christian walking in step with the Holy Spirit, demons have no power over you. But they can afflict or torment you. They cannot possess you, but they can tempt and terrorize you. Scripture gives us the antidote for this: James chapter 4 verse 7 says, "Submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." Notice we don't just resist the devil and he flees. There's a massive qualifier: we are to submit to God, then resist the devil and he will flee. I wish our culture was as interested in the things of God as in the things of the devil. And yet through all of this, when people give their hearts to such dark things, we see the heart of God, that even in the midst of a people who rejected him, God so loved the world that he sent his son to do for us what we couldn't do for ourselves, to save us from the darkness we willingly give ourselves to. Christ came to pave the way for salvation, saving us from the full wrath of God rightly due to us because of our sins, a judgment that is coming to give us what we don't deserve: heaven, a seat at God's table. Christ died so we could have life, walk in the light, not darkness, not to play with demons but to walk with the Holy Spirit. So for the glory of God, in the name of Jesus Christ, and through the power of the Holy Spirit, let's stand and worship. Would you bow your heads? Prepare your heart for worship, considering that you deserve hell but Christ has come to intervene so you could have life to the full, life eternal. That alone should call you to worship. On top of this, we are also saved from the judgment we are rightly due. Father, we come before you thankful for the opportunity to gather in the midst of brothers and sisters in Jesus. We come before you, our victorious King, who does sit on the throne, ruling in love and righteousness. We thank you for doing for us what we couldn't do for ourselves, winning the victory over Satan, sin, and death, and giving us a seat at your table. So, Father, pour out your Spirit so we can worship you in the name of Jesus by the power of the Spirit. And everyone said, Amen. And everyone said, Amen. Church, let's worship together.

Sermon Discussion Questions 1 Title Sunday, January 19, 2025 Womb to Tomb Psalm 82 Justice for the Fatherless 2 Overview Main Idea: God's people are to share God's heart to give justice for those who can't defend themselves. Sermon Outline: 1. God is the supreme judge {Psalm 82:1} 2. God is the righteous judge {Psalm 82:2-7} 3 Pre-Questions What comes to mind when you hear the word ‘justice’? How does it relate to helping those who cannot help themselves? Have you ever known someone who didn’t have a father or a stable family? What challenges do you think they faced? 4 Questions Psalm 68:5 says God is a ‘Father to the fatherless.’ What does this verse teach us about God’s character and His care for vulnerable people? How can we reflect God’s heart for the fatherless in our daily lives? Isaiah 1:17 calls us to ‘defend the fatherless.’ What are some practical ways we can live this out as individuals and as a church? What might stop us from stepping in to help the fatherless, and how can we overcome those barriers? Proverbs 31:8-9 urges us to ‘speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves.’ How can we be advocates for children without families or stable homes? How can we offer more than just material support and bring hope and love to the fatherless? Ephesians 1:5 says that God predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ. How does understanding our spiritual adoption help us care for others? What role can fostering, adoption, or mentorship play in living out God’s call to care for the fatherless? What is one step you can take this week to help or support someone who is fatherless or vulnerable? PDF Download

PODCAST That's a Good Question Is Arminianism Heritical: Divine Sovereignty vs. Human Choice November 21, 2023 Jon Delger & Nate Harney Listen to this Episode JonHey everyone, welcome to That's a Good Question, a podcast of Peace Church, this place where we answer questions about the Christian faith in plain language. My name is Jon, I serve as a pastor at Peace Church and I also get to serve as the weekly host of this show. You can always submit questions at peacechurch.cc slash questions. And I'm here today with our family pastor at Peace Church, Pastor Nate. Hi, Pastor Nate. Nate Hello there. Happy to be here. Jon Awesome to get to have a conversation around a great listener question today. So, Producer Mitchell, would you mind sharing with us the question? MitchellYep, here it is. Is Luke 15:17 proof of Arminian theology that we choose our own salvation. JonSo, I guess a follow-up would be, what is Arminian theology? NateAnd what is Luke 15? MitchellYeah, that too. JonYeah, fair question. NateJon, can you help us with that? JonYeah, I got to preach on Luke 15 recently. So, Luke 15 is three stories, but the story that we're, that's, that this one's referring to is the story of the prodigal son has run away and then he's hit rock-bottom, he's in the mud with the pigs and he decides on his own, he decides he's gonna go back to his father. And so I think the question is basically this, so in that story the prodigal son hits rock-bottom, makes his own decision to return to the father, isn't that a model for how people go from being an unbeliever to a believer, and we're going to talk about what is Arminian theology. But isn't that what Arminian theology is, and therefore shouldn't we believe it? Isn't Arminian theology basically that we choose our own salvation, and isn't that what we see in this story? So let's talk about that a little bit. Let's talk about what are some verses that you would use to, that could be used to defend Arminian theology? NateYeah, I think a couple of them come to mind right away, in terms of how it kind of zoomed in, how it practically works itself out. Think about in Romans 10, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. So that seems to put the onus on the person. If you make the verbal confession then you get saved. Our action of confession or verbalizing then God responds and gives us that salvation that we're asking him for. And then another one that I think of and I get I've wrestled with myself is from 1st Timothy 2 and verses 3 and 4, that's kind of more zoomed out the big picture, but I'll read that for you. It says, this is good and is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. And so that would, that verse in saying, hey, God desires for all people to be saved, and it seems like if that doesn't happen, then there must be a lot of power that we have in that. We can say yes or no. We choose God. We either confess Him or we don't. God's hoping and wishing and longing that we would all say yes, but that's ultimately not up to Him. It's our decision. So those are two that I think of. Do you have any more that come to your mind? JonYeah, those are really good. I think there's a lot that we could talk about, but one other one I'll add to that is in Mark 1, sort of just the way Jesus frames the gospel when he goes out preaching the gospel, he says, the time is fulfilled, the kingdom of God is at hand, repent and believe in the gospel. So, like those other verses and like even the story of the prodigal son, Jesus is making that call. He says, repent and believe in the gospel. The decision is yours. You got to decide. Choose to be saved or not to be saved. To believe in Jesus, to not believe in Jesus. And that's the same way that we preach the gospel, you know, on Sundays and whenever we share it with an unbeliever, you know, whenever I'm sharing the gospel, somebody explain to them what Jesus has done and I give them the invitation. So put your faith in Jesus and receive eternal life. So these verses and kind of those ideas seem to point to the idea that people choose, that it's up to us, and that is kind of, you know, if you're new to this conversation, Arminian theology, that's what they're saying, is that the decision is ours, that we have a, one of the key words is free will, we have a free will, we decide, God doesn't decide, but we decide whether we get saved or not. So before we get too far into it, maybe we should talk about the other side real quick. So the other side is called, often called Calvinism. That's the opposite of Arminian theology. So let's talk about a couple of verses that could be used to support that. I'll kick off, again, there's plenty of verses we could talk about. Let's just highlight a few. One of the ones that I hear often referred to is John 6:44. Jesus says, no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And that sort of feels like it's saying the opposite of everything we just said, right? Jesus, on the one hand, said, repent and believe. On the other hand, he said, you can't come to me unless the Father who sent me draws you. Got any other verses? NateYeah, I think of Ephesians 2 and really all throughout the scriptures as we're referred to as being dead in sin. That's a very intentional language. We're not just sick, not just broken. We certainly are those things, but the Bible The Bible constantly uses language of us being dead and us needing to be resurrected, made alive again. And just the logical understanding of that is dead things can't come back to life on their own. Outside of Jesus, dead things are dead. Without someone else bringing that dead thing to life, resuscitating it, nothing's going to change. of death. And then another, a huge chapter that you hear over and over again when you discuss Calvinism is Romans 9. It's this chapter and this incredible letter giving us some of our clearest theological understanding of what the gospel is and how it practically works itself out. And in Romans 9, Paul just comes with, I think, some of the most clarity in all the scriptures scriptures of just saying it's not by our will, not even by our desire that we're saved, but by the Father's hand. And it even goes into what some people would say is kind of the other side of election where Paul seems to clearly allude to that there's even some vessels created for destruction. So that goes into a whole other category. another category, but if you're really curious to see the basics of Calvinist theology laid out with total clarity in a whole chapter, Romans 9 is a go-to. JonYeah, totally. So, this is, so again, if you're new to this debate, this is something that's gone on for a lot of years. Actually, going back to the 1600s is where these two kind of phrases come from. So there's a lot of historical study you could do on this, but these are kind of two different perspectives that people come at the scriptures with. And as you just heard, there's verses that both sides are using and saying, this is, this seems to be what it says. And so, let's talk a little bit about, again, this is like a huge discussion that we could spend like weeks and hours talking about, but to try to do it quickly, I think the bottom line for me is that the Bible had, all these verses are from the Bible, these are God's word. And so they don't contradict each other. They work together somehow, and so we've got to figure out how do they work together, how do we make sense of all of it coming together. So can we make sense of these passages? So let's just start kind of by hammering through some principles. I think the first principle we can start with is the one that you brought up in Ephesians chapter 2, that we're dead in sin. So when I used to do youth ministry, I would have, and I would explain this concept. I would have a student come up on the stage and like, and I'd, I whisper, I'd say, Hey, pretend to be dead. And they would lay on the ground. But, and I'd say, I'd say, you know, pretending to be dead means that, you know, and I'd like reach my hand. I put it in front of their face and I'd be like, Hey, grab my hand and you can be alive. And they wouldn't do anything. Cause they're dead. They can't respond. And so that's the starting point for Calvinism is to say, Hey, if you're dead, you can't do anything. And I think that's that's kind of that's that's a really important principle to start with, is that if you're dead, you can't do anything. And actually, God has to be like the first mover if you're going to come back to life. NateI think that's good. I think of another principle that I come back to over and over again is that our experience, our daily experience doesn't fundamentally explain reality. That experience is important for informing our reality and we definitely take it as one of the variables that we think through things, but we've all had experiences where we know what we are directly experiencing doesn't necessarily reflect what is true and certainly doesn't make something true. One of the places where I start as somebody who's gotten to interact with people from a lot of different theological backgrounds, I've interacted with a lot of people with Arminian theology, is I kind of understand that their experience, their daily experience seems to be one of choice, seems to be one of total freedom. And so I chose what shoes to wear today. I chose what time to leave for work. And in the same way, I chose God. And I'm choosing God every day. I chose him for salvation and I'll choose him again each day when I wake up. seem this way, it doesn't mean that reveals everything about how it actually works and what is actually true. And that's why, instead of going to our experience, we start with the scriptures. And so I love that you brought that up. You know, to start with saying, the Bible says we're dead, so let's take it at our word. We don't feel dead. You know, when we wake up, we don't feel spiritually dead. But if the Bible says we are apart from Christ, then we are, even if we don't necessarily feel that way. JonWow, that's a really powerful point to realize, yeah, our experience doesn't describe everything. So, yeah, like you, I've had some of those experiences of talking with people within Arminian Theology. I remember actually having one guy, when I was in college, we were kind of having this discussion, and he got a little frustrated, and he took a pencil in his hand, and he held it right in front of my face, and he dropped it, and he said, I dropped the pencil. God didn't drop the pencil. I dropped the pencil. And I said, well, you sure did. I saw that happen. But the question isn't really whether or not you dropped the pencil. The question is, did God have control over it? Was he in control? Did he know that was going to happen? And did he play any role in the situation? And to me, just looking at scripture and thinking about God's sovereignty, to me, it just always comes back to, yes, God still played a role in that. So one of the things that I've said to people when we first start talking about this conversation is that I think actually it's important to just kind of back out and remember kind of a point of perspective that, I've said it this way, like, you know, when I first got saved, I would then talk about that and I would say, you know, I got saved, I made a decision to follow Jesus, right? I was studying the Bible, I was going to church, I had friends who were Christians, and I decided to follow Jesus. But after some years of studying scripture and knowing the Lord better, I looked back on that, and now I would maybe say it a little bit differently, I'd say, yes, I decided to follow Jesus, but what was actually happening was God was working in my heart. Leading up to that moment, God was doing something. The Holy Spirit was working in my heart, specifically He's working through some Bible studies, we're studying Scripture. And so God was actually moving first. I didn't realize it or I wouldn't have the words to say that at the time, but God was moving first and that resulted in me making a decision. So it's not as though, you know, to me, it's just a matter of perspective is a huge role in this whole conversation. NateAbsolutely. So you establish that we are dead in our sin. We just talked about even if it doesn't feel like that, we know the Bible is true on that. So therefore, if we are dead in our sin, then it's God who must intervene for us to believe, for us to confess, for us to repent, for us to ask for forgiveness and say, I'm going to follow Jesus. Ultimately, God is the initiator of that. If our place that we're starting from is death, we need God to bring life. But the experience can certainly feel like the rest of our daily experience, where you go, I got up today, I decided what I'd eat for breakfast, and I chose Jesus. That was what my experience felt like. But we know when it comes to salvation, the Bible is clear that something else entirely is happening. MitchellSo I want to ask just a quick clarifying thought for people who might be hearing both of these terms for the first time, could you give like a Just a short answer of what Calvinism is and what arminianism is? Well, if you're gonna say, you know, like what do these guys believe? And just a quick statement. JonAnd the short answer is usually the hardest I think these topics. I think you're asking the right question. Its just a little hard. NateWhen I give my quickest statement, I try to be as charitable as I can. Jon and I, at Peace Church, we are Calvinists, but I've interacted with a lot of godly Arminians. And so the way I explain it is, I think all Christians believe that God is sovereign. You have to believe that in order to understand the Bible, in order to have a real relationship with God. I think all Christians have to believe in some form of human responsibility, whatever, but that gets characterized in different ways. And so I would say Calvinists see the scriptures holding those things in tension, but with leaning towards an emphasis on God's sovereignty and God being in control. And I would say that Arminians, when they read the scriptures, I still, I believe they believe in a form of God's sovereignty, but they would lean in the direction of humanity being more in control and leaning more into, I would say, when they say human responsibility, they mean we're not just responsible for our own sin, but we're responsible for our own salvation. I would say the Bible's clear, we're responsible for our own sin, but in God's sovereignty dictates our salvation. So that's kind of, you can go into the points of Tulip and then the Arminian points that kind of go against it, but if I have to just sum it up really quick, I'd say Calvinists see the emphasis being on God's sovereignty, but there is human responsibility. Where Arminians, the emphasis is on human responsibility, and as kind of a secondary thing, God is also sovereign somehow. Does that work? JonYeah, I think that was well said.That's good. Well, so let's plan out that tension more, because that is the tension. God's sovereignty, human responsibility, how those two things work together. So you already gave away our position, right? We're on the Calvinist side of this thing. We read the Bible, we see that God is sovereign, humans are still responsible, but that ultimately God is sovereign. God has to be the first mover in order for somebody to get saved. God has to work in somebody's heart in order for, you know, so I, you know, we feel called because the Bible tells us to go and share the gospel with anybody and everybody. But in order for them to really become saved, God has to work in their hearts. And that's a good thing from our perspective. You know, it means that when I go and share the gospel, my responsibility is to share as clearly as possible the gospel, but ultimately, the results are in God's hands. God is the one who's going to either, you know, move in their hearts for them to respond or not. So, to speak from that perspective, I think one place where the Bible is really clear, I think, about these two sides of the tension, both existing at the same time, as in Acts chapter 2 and Acts chapter 4. In Acts chapter 2 is where Peter is preaching his Pentecost sermon and he talks about Jesus going to the cross, the most awful, evil, and sinful thing that's ever happened, human beings killing the Son of God. Okay, and in the Scriptures in Acts 2 and Acts 4, Scripture calls that, on the one hand, it was God's foreknown predestined plan, and on the other hand, it also says that the Jews and the Romans who put him to death are responsible for their sin in killing Jesus. So it says that God is sovereign, it was His plan for Jesus to go to the cross and die for our sins, and it also says that human beings were responsible for killing Jesus. And so, that's where as Calvinists, we say that the Bible holds these two things in tension. That that's appropriate. God was in control, but human beings are still responsible for their actions. How exactly those two things work together, we don't know, but that's what the Bible holds out. NateAnd there's people who understandably would accuse that kind of statement as being a contradiction. Where we would reply is we would see that as more of a paradox, something that might seem like a contradiction, but understanding that there's a way that it fits together, we could start to explain it, but ultimately only in the mind of God and I believe in eternity will we fully kind of get to learn about that and understand how that all perfectly fits. But I think that's not just the case with this theological category, but with so many things in life. There are things that we understand, hey, I can't fully explain or comprehend how this exactly works. I always think about a microwave. I know the basics. I know that the microwaves heat up liquid, so that makes my food hot, because something about the atoms and whatever liquid is in my food but if you sent me back 500 years I couldn't reinvent the microwave because I don't know how it works. But I do know that it works. I think practically we see and we feel how this works itself out. Can we explain every single facet of exactly how that works in a way that's perfectly just and also gracious and in a way that that grace of God and the justice of God to hold us responsible but also give us forgiveness and give us salvation. How does that all work? That's what we're on the journey of learning more and more about every time we read the Bible and every time we gather and discuss this kind of thing. JonRight, totally. An apparent contradiction, right, is what we would call it. It looks like, it appears to be a contradiction, but it's not. Also, maybe important to clarify too, by the way, we're saying Arminian, not Armenian. Yes, very important. We have nothing against Armenians. That's right. NateWonderful people. JonYeah, we've got a friend actually who used to work at this church, she was Armenian, and we used to joke about that, right? That we're not, yeah, we're not talking about Armenians, they can be wonderful people. Arminian is a theological position. NateAnd Arminians can be wonderful people, too. They're just theologically a little misguided, is all. JonYeah, we love them. MitchellI think there's my question, too. I want to ask that. When we talk about these two theologies, are we saying that one is heretical? JonLike, where would we come down as a church on that? NateThat's a great clarifying question. I would say it depends. I think as with a lot of theological standpoints, I think hyper-Arminianism or the extreme version of it, you can get in a territory pretty quickly that it's not gospel, it's not biblical anymore. Because if you believe that humans are in total control and there's a powerless God who doesn't know the future or doesn't have any control over anything, if that's what you mean by Arminianism, then I would say you're not a Christian. You're not a follower of Jesus because you don't know and have a relationship with the God who clearly reveals himself as he is in the scriptures. Now for those who are just, who would have a leaning towards Arminianism, kind of like what we talked about earlier, but still have a grasp and somewhat of a solid understanding of the sovereignty of God, I would say that those are brothers and sisters that we're in theological disagreement with. JonYeah, Calvinism, and this whole conversation, is a tough, deep thing to digest. It takes a lot of time and thought and study to work through this stuff. So yeah, I mean, that's the first thing I want people to know, is just that there's grace and patience for those who are like, wow, this is, I haven't really thought of this before, or I have, and it's challenging, and I don't get it yet, that's okay. Let's work through it. If you're still just saying like, man, I make choices, I choose, you know, I'm not a robot. I get that. I get that perspective. I think there's a lot more steady and conversation to be done around that, but I get that. And so that's okay to struggle through that and think through that. But I don't want to, I hate to use too many theological terms, but you know, the direction you were talking about if somebody's going down the extreme version of our mini-nism leads to other categories like open theism or Semi-pelagianism is something that Arminians are usually Accused of and those two things are you know open theism is saying that God's not sovereign Semi-pelagian ism is saying that we're saved not just by grace, but also by works. They're saying well hey if God's not in control And it's all up to me, then really this whole faith thing becomes like a work. Like I have to work up the faith in order to get saved. And so, you know, I think then people are asking the question, is that what Arminians are saying? So, yeah, like you said, if you go down that road too far, you get into a bad place. And I think what we're also saying is that if you're just kind of on the wondering side and you're saying, I just don't quite get this yet and it seems wrong to me, then that's okay. We get that. Nate Absolutely. So as we bring this back to the parable of the prodigal son, then Jon, having just preached it and now thinking through these categories of Calvinism and Arminianism, how would you say that that parable of the prodigal son paints a picture of how salvation works? Jon Yeah, totally. I think it goes back to what you were sharing about experience versus what's actually happening behind the scenes. So in the story, we don't get God's omnipotent, omniscient perspective. We just get the Son's recounting of it. And so from his perspective, yeah, he hit rock bottom. And he, it says he came to himself. So he opened his eyes, he realized, he looked around and realized, this is not the best thing for his life, this is not good, I want to return to my father. And I think that's the experience for so many of us when we come to salvation. We're living the life of sin and something, for whatever reason, opens our eyes and we all of a sudden see that this is not really life. Life really comes through Jesus and we turn. But I think what we would also say just looking at the rest of the Bible is that actually what the story doesn't tell us is that the Holy Spirit was working in his heart. What really opened his eyes was the work of God in his heart. And then he has that moment where the text says he came to himself, the Holy Spirit opened his eyes, and then he saw his own sin and his need for return to the Father. NateAnd I think you brought up Acts 2 and 4 earlier. If you go later into Acts as the church is building, you'll find it almost goes back and forth. You'll find there'll be times where the way that the Book of Acts accounts the church growing is, they'll say something like, and 3,000 were saved, or many came to faith. And there's that picture of people coming to faith and them walking towards Jesus almost. And then there's other times where it says, and as many as were appointed unto salvation are saved. And so the Bible doesn't always, Jesus in every parable didn't give an exact theological picture of how everything works itself out. And even as you read through the New Testament, in some of Paul's letters and the book of Acts, all throughout it, you'll see different puzzle pieces of how salvation works. And it's not always the full picture, but one theme that comes through over and over and over again is that we have a responsibility as humanity for our sin, but that God, the Sovereign One, is the one who brings us to salvation, not the other way around. JonAmen. Awesome. Well, hey, if you have more questions about that, feel free to submit them. peacechurch.cc/question. It's a deep subject, and so happy to return to it some more in the future. But hey, thanks everybody for listening. Thanks Nate. Thank you. Thank you Mitch. Awesome, thanks everybody for listening. Have an awesome week.

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